Friday, March 06, 2009

Why we boycott Maté Factor


By permission of the author, here is an unedited version of an article by John Sullivan that originally appeared in the January 2007 Ithaca Community News.

In Ithaca many people consider the consequences of how and where they spend their money. My wife and I have friends who can tell you why they refuse to buy products from several manufacturers as well as from a local big-box retailer or two.

So in the summer of 2006 when we learned about the history, beliefs and practices of the Twelve Tribes religious group that owns and operates the Maté Factor on the Commons, we were surprised that fellow Ithacans had yet to organize any kind of public awareness effort. Knowing little about the Twelve Tribes, we’d eaten there several times and had enjoyed the experience. The proprietors, who in appearance resemble a cross between flower children and the Amish, seemed harmless enough. The food was good, the décor interesting and the ambience inviting.

I’d like to explain why we with other Ithacans have since begun an organized boycott of Maté Factor and why we invite you to join us in this effort.

First some background on the Twelve Tribes. In the early 1970's a former carnival barker named Eugene Spriggs founded the group now called Twelve Tribes in Chattanooga, Tennessee. Spriggs began teaching his own brand of fundamentalist, millennialist Christianity in which followers give up all personal possessions and prepare for the biblical apocalypse in emulation of the first Christians described in the Book of Acts. After wearing out their welcome in Bible Belt Tennessee, they relocated to the small town of Island Pond, Vermont. In the past two decades they have established 24 communities in the U.S., six in upstate New York (including Ithaca), as well as in France, Canada, Australia, Brazil, Spain, Germany, Argentina, and the United Kingdom. According to the Boston Globe, the group has nearly doubled in size in the past five years (to between 3000 and 4000) and has prospered financially from opportune real estate investments. They give themselves Hebrew names, practice Israeli folk dances, and have adopted the name “Twelve Tribes” to reflect their belief that they are God’s newly chosen people. They preach that only they offer salvation and that baptism within other faith communities is worthless. According to defectors, Spriggs still maintains complete control of all communities. He and his wife reportedly shuttle between estates near Twelve Tribes communities in the U.S., France and Brazil and live in considerably better conditions than do their flock.

Our objections to Spriggs and the Twelve Tribes are not directly concerned with their religious claims or belief in an approaching apocalypse. Instead, we object to their promotion of racist, misogynistic and homophobic doctrines that have a long history of hurting people: doctrines that are in fact at the root of the greatest modern crimes against humanity. Additionally, we object to their exploitation of young adults and——to us the most disturbing——their advocacy of child mistreatment.

Spriggs, known as “Yoneq” inside the group, teaches that slavery of people of African descent and the social order of the Jim Crow South were ordained by God, a result of the biblical curse of Canaan. According to Spriggs, “Martin Luther King could not offer true freedom to [African-Americans] when he was a slave of the curse himself” and “Martin Luther King was filled with every evil spirit there is to say [blacks don’t] have to serve [whites]…All manner of evil filled that man.” Race mixing and multicultural society are anathema to Spriggs. Literature the Twelve Tribes disseminates for the public and potential recruits only slightly softens Spriggs’ teachings with more veiled references to race. For instance, in their publication “Multicultural Madness” you will read:
“Let's face it. It is just not reasonable to expect people to live contentedly alongside of others who are culturally and racially different. This is unnatural, and sometimes forces people to go against what they instinctively know in their conscience.”

From another entitled "Alien Ant":
“Multiculturalism increases murder, crime and prejudice. It goes against the way man is. It places impossible demands on people to love others who are culturally and racially different. This is unnatural, like trying to love sodomites.”

Spriggs has written that (real) Jews suffer under their own curse for crucifying Jesus and that homosexuals “deserve the death penalty.” He is adamant that women unquestioningly submit to the authority of their husbands. But central in Spriggs’ teachings concern their children. On them all their hopes depend since in a generation or two they must produce 144,000 pure and virginal boys to be the bride of the Messiah as described in the Book of Revelation. Any deviation from devout focus on this goal endangers everyone’s salvation. And so he admonishes his followers to begin beating disobedient children with switches from before they can walk. According to Spriggs, a beating is not sufficient until “blue wounds” appear in the child’s flesh. Punishable offenses include engaging in make-believe.

Children in the Twelve Tribes are home-schooled to only a rudimentary level and are prohibited from acquiring a high school diploma or G.E.D. (After all, what use have breeding stock for an education?) They are put to work at an early age in the group’s cottage industries. We have no information on how children are treated in the Ithaca community other than what the parents tell us. Normally, no one mandated by New York state law to report signs of abuse—doctors, teachers, social workers—ever see the children. However, none of the local Twelve Tribes adults with whom I have spoken have disowned Spriggs’ teachings on child discipline (or those on any other subjects). On the occasions I went to the restaurant, I regularly saw children working behind the counter. New York State fined two Greene County Twelve Tribes businesses for child labor law violations in 2001.

The group largely recruits directionless (but fertile) twenty-somethings, often at rock concerts. They take, and under no conditions return, all the financial resources of those who have any. Accounts from people who have left Twelve Tribes describe a culture based on psychological manipulation, suspension of individuality, and total dependency on “elders,” all of whom are male.

Somehow, because their doctrines and practices come wrapped in religious convictions, they have been immune from the kind of criticism that would otherwise be marshaled against them. We suspect most people eating at Maté Factor on any given day would say that they find nostalgia for slavery and patriarchy, anti-Semitism, homophobia, and child beating rather revolting. We think most would choose to spend their money elsewhere if they were aware that Twelve Tribes exploits people and promotes these things. I see people eating in Maté Factor who are probably among those concerned by sweatshop labor in Bangladesh and who protest human rights abuses in Tibet. We could all benefit by being more aware of what is going on in our own backyard.

Our group, Ithacans Opposed to the Twelve Tribes Cult (IOTTC), came together initially to counter a Twelve Tribes recruiting rally on the Ithaca Commons on August 12, 2006. At that surreal event were treated to a black Twelve Tribesperson (yes, there are a few) explain how the Montgomery Alabama bus boycott of 1955-56 was a misguided effort, among other things. We handed out a pamphlet containing the words of Eugene Spriggs to over 300 passers-by that day and, I think, successfully frustrated their efforts.

The members of the Twelve Tribes who have settled in Ithaca and work at the Maté Factor should not be insulted or harassed. Many are themselves victimized and may have not fully understood all of the Spriggs’ teachings when they joined. As one ex-Twelve Tribesperson wrote us “a lot of them have a hard time stomaching the teachings like the Ham teaching [on race] and the child discipline stuff, however they are between a rock and a hard place, and it's not worth it for them to rebel against those teachings because their survival depends on their submission to authority.” We should feel compassion for these people and offer them assistance to leave TT. Any that choose to do so will need our help since they own nothing but the shirt on their back. However, by eating at the Maté Factor your dollars empower the Twelve Tribes organization to maintain their hold on these adults and their children, and to recruit others.

Some confuse the right to free speech and belief to which we are all entitled with a supposed right to not be criticized. This no one has. When an ideology promotes homophobia, misogyny, racism and mistreatment of children we have an absolute obligation to speak up. Yes, the Twelve Tribes are for now a small group with fringe beliefs. Every one of us has a real interest in keeping things that way. Please help us boycott Maté Factor.

56 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

You should investigate the community personally before you make judgement upon them. Yes they are different and yes they live a different life than most of us. No, they are NOT racist, there are many families of ALL RACES in the community. They do NOT mistreat their children. Although, they do believe that being homosexual is a sin, and this I disagree with. However they don't turn homosexuals away from their home for visiting and seeing their way of life. I heard about them and their being a "cult" and decided to see for myself what this rumor was founded upon. I lived with them for three months. They are good people with kind hearts, most were on a distructive path or lost before finding the community and themselves. I disagree like I said before with their belief about homosexuals, but beyond that I could not find much else that I didn't think was kosher. I do think that they need more teachers in their community and that they do cut themselves off from the rest of the world too much.

May 01, 2009 10:30 PM  
Blogger Aloysius Horn said...

I have a lot of sympathy for folks inside the Twelve Tribes communities and have no doubt that many were on destructive paths before they sought refuge there. For someone whose life had been out of control I can believe that the limited degrees of freedom and enforced drug-free living might be an improvement, at least temporarily. My beef is with the "Elders" and the doctrines and dogmas they enforce, many of which are dangerous as described in this article. I think help with addictions and support from community are probably available elsewhere without the burden of having to beat your children and embrace abhorrent doctrines.

May 12, 2009 7:53 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thankyou for the information you've made available on this page. My friend has recently gone to stay and be baptized there and I was wondering what was going on. It sounds like the people there are mostly nice, but the master they serve is not.

My friend's life was rough and she had many reasons to want to run off to something new, but she also gave up on things she previously cared about, and I am worried she is just going to cut herself off further from the people who care about her. We are trying to get up there to visit her. She seems happy, if only it weren't for the benefit of making some religious tyrants rich; and also it doesn't seem like a very genuine take on religion.
thankyou so much for boycotting them. I am glad that consumers care, and are doing what little they can not to support corruption.

June 14, 2009 8:01 PM  
Blogger Aloysius Horn said...

Eric,

Thanks for honestly relating your experiences and opinions and good luck to you.

August 07, 2009 8:37 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anyone who doubts that this group is racist, anti-semitic, and homophobic (to put it mildly) should spend some time reading their teachings which are available at: http://www.twelvetribesteachings.com/pdf/Gays/ttgay4.pdf

Here is a list of their other establishments:
http://www.twelvetribes.com/whereweare/us/us-cafes.html

September 25, 2009 8:41 PM  
Blogger O.H.M said...

i REALLY wanna see some black TT members hear the 120 lessons of the nation of gods and earths. which is essentialy the polar opposite of the TT. it would so blow their minds

February 02, 2010 9:19 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The TWELVE TRIBES RESTAURANT, the "Yellow Deli" is now located at:
315 E Broadway
Vista, CA 92084 760.630.0040.

You can send them mail (next door to the Yellow Deli), to "The Adobe" office bldg. at 323 E. Broadway. The names below, are collecting mail there:
*Marsha Spriggs
*Marcel E.(or C?) Masse
(Marcel has an additional address at 92 MELVILLE AVE DORCHESTER CENTER, MA 2124-2125)
*Michelle(Michele) A. Masse
*Daniel and Sharron R. Brosseau

How very sad for our North San Diego semi-rural community. This cult has been here since 2003. They now own millions of dollars worth of agriculture/commercial and residential real estate.
The address where they first settled, is 12458 KEYS CREEK RD. VALLEY CENTER, CA 92082. They have named this avocado grove/farmland property of 61 acres, the "Morning Star Ranch".

March 17, 2010 6:37 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I found an interesting, well written story about a former member's flight

http://www.tonic.com/article/from-commune-to-college-one-young-womans-road-to-independence-samantha-brosseau/

July 27, 2010 10:44 PM  
Blogger cdumas said...

Yes, I still think about the Twelve Tribes, and miss it there. Do believe has time plays out, that much more good will come about as the result of the Tribes existence than bad for when they have failed in some ways.

I took a good look at my own life recently, and have come to the sobering conclusion that I'd be a much better person today had I remained with my brothers and sisters in the Tribes.

Would also be interested in what other ex-members have to say about how they see their own life and the Tribes, having been away from the Communities.

Have explored various spiritual paths, but there's something about Yahshua I can't shake, and I just don't find him in so many churches I been in, the way he is at the Tribes.

When I'd go out and pray at the Tribes, it was like he was right beside me, literally at times.

Life without him and daily brothers and sisters and working together, is pretty meaningless to me now in mainstream society.

Am not excusing the Tribes for where they have failed at times, just to be honest about where I'm at, and wonder how other ex-members feel.
thanks, Eric Christopherson

August 23, 2010 7:36 PM  
Anonymous Eric Christopherson said...

Still think about the Tribes from time to time. But, think that to go back and live there, I would really need to turn off my brain and conscience on certain teachings and practices that are so very wrong. I like many of the people, the food, and gatherings. It's sad when people are looking for God and enlightenment,there are cult-like groups, like the Tribes saying, "Come home, we are where God lives, and you can finally be forgiven here." If that were true, most of the people who visit and join would stay there and be happy, instead of leaving. If they could just dump the teachings that hurt and condemn others and live by doing to others what you have them do unto you, it could be so much better. If you have the basic teachings of Jesus, do you need all the teachings of Yoneq, the Tribes founder and Apostle?

January 09, 2011 8:05 AM  
Blogger A said...

Hi there -

It would be great if you can help me spread the following post across your blog and network so as many people as possible will have the chance to see it.

"We are producers partnered with a major news outlet, and are seeking families or individuals who were formerly involved in demanding groups/organizations to share their stories. We are interested in both positive and negative experiences, and hope to hear from those who have separated from the group within the last 9 months. If you would like additional information, please email clpdocumentary@gmail.com and describe your current situation. Thank you."

Thank you so much for your help!

February 01, 2011 4:30 PM  
Blogger Love Hertz said...

Just for clarification, is Maté Factor a Twelve Tribes brand or is the café a franchise owned by them? I am a big maté and Asheville fan and after googling around to find out more information about Maté Factor, I found this blog. I originally hoped I would be buying from a Asheville based tea company and now I am wondering if something more sinister exists behind the brand...

February 07, 2011 10:04 AM  
Anonymous A New Guy in Town said...

I have investigated them very thoroughly, and in several conversations over the course of three years, we have found three beliefs that go against the very Bible they claim to believe.

A. They believe the first church has failed. This goes directly against Jesus' own statement: "Upon this rock [Peter's faith] shall I build my church, and the gates of hell shall NOT prevail against it." If the church failed, then Jesus is a liar and we have no business doing anything in His name.

B. They believe that Jesus is not God, which goes against most of the book of John and many of Paul's own writings. Mainly "in Him was the fullness of the Godhead Bodily" and John 1:1 "In the Beginning was the Word and the Word was with God and the Word was God"

C. They believe that the Holy Spirit is love and that the Holy Spirit is ONLY in the community, as was stated in a Friday night celebration prayer in the Chattanooga community on Fort Wood and Oak Streets. This goes against the fact that God is everywhere and is spreading His word throughout the land like seed. If His love is not outside of the community, then He is NOT all loving and therefore NOT worth worship or honor or glory.
However, the opposite is true. God loves the whole world so much that He gave His only Son that whosoever believes on Him will never perish, but have everlasting life.

April 13, 2011 11:35 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

we need to get anonymous on this.

April 20, 2011 1:59 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

There is nothing wrong with the Twelve Tribes.

May 08, 2011 3:01 PM  
Blogger nabashalam said...

The Tribes are selling the Melville house in Boston which was one of if not the first star attraction communities all the way back to the beginning after they were kicked out of Chattanooga and started to spread (swarm)from Island Pond VT.

When the Tribes sell such a corner stone of the structure, it points to the whole building collapsing...

Not to mention of the dozens of disciples leaving every which way you look...

Is this the beginning of the end?

http://www.zillow.com/homedetails/92-Melville-Ave-Dorchester-Center-MA-02124/59105031_zpid/

June 23, 2011 11:59 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I really wish you would actually do research before attacking people different from yourself. As a matter of fact there are different races (as well as blacks) who are apart of the commune. If you boycotted everyone or everything that didn't approve of homosexuality then you would be just like them, wouldn't you? Please check again, this is America. We are free to be ourselves. Please don't try to drag someone else's name through the mud only because you don't agree with them.

October 29, 2011 4:42 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

SADLY, SADLY,SADLY,LABOR CAMPS IN THE GUISE OF EARLY CHURCH CHRISTENDOM.

November 11, 2011 4:32 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Very very glad to see ppl are finally realizing their businesses are not to be supported. I find it strange that ppl can go and eat in their cafes as if they are visiting an Amish bakery. Also to the guy who left but has regrets, why did you leave if you were truly happy there? You probably weren't or you would not have left and are looking back at the fond memories only. I also suspect the "peace" you talk about was a result of knowing that you did not have to make any major life decisions and your needs were taken care of. These high demand groups have their own "highs" where everyone is experiencing a sense of brotherhood and religious ecstasy. But that is a false high much like the televangelist "miracles". Again I just want to seriously applaud this group for finally providing info on the TT they are not something anyone off the street would want to support and I hope you get the word out enough that their customer base drops and drops and drops...

November 12, 2011 10:16 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Also to the first person who commented, it sounds like you went for a visit with the Twelve Tribes, did you HONESTLY think that you would see all of the darker side right up front?? Also I'm sure many are nice sincere ppl and they are of course putting their best foot forward to guests they are in recruit mode. What did you think about their beliefs on spanking, they are surprisingly upfront about that and its sickening. One can only imagine what goes on behind the scenes. Esp. since they encourage the use of actual rods.

November 12, 2011 10:20 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

When I was living in the Tribes, one of the original members told me that a male member hid in the bathroom shower tub with the curtain pulled while she fully disrobed intending to take a shower, then he opened the curtain to see and frighten her. Another "bad fruit" of communalism.

November 21, 2011 9:21 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

While visiting the community I said I didn't believe in black people being slaves to white people. A member then said to me, "If it (slavery) was good enough for Abraham it's good enough for me...Go to a black neighborhood if you haven't and see how great that is."

This is very clear: the Tribes believe that all black people who don't join the Tribes cannot ever be equal with white people and they should still be slaves to white people.

But the Tribes members will say over and over how they love black people, and that they have black elders, and how they are not racist!

In the story of Noah and the Ark in the Bible, Noah's 2nd son Ham/Cham supposedly walked into Noah's tent after Noah was passed out drunk and naked. Then Cham (the father of all black people) went out and told everyone and made fun of his father.

But here's the part I don't understand, why would Noah curse Cham and Cham's son Caanan, when it was Noah who got drunk and passed out naked in his tent? Shouldn't he have cursed himself?

But let's say he did curse Cham and Caanan, why should all of their descendants be cursed for something Cham did?

I give Islam great credit for this. They don't believe God places the sins of one person onto others or their descendants. Everyone is directly and only accountable for their own sins.

Gene Spriggs "Cham Teaching" all sounds like a way for others in history to justify black slavery, like the Southern plantation owners did a long time ago. And those who had some slaves in the North as well.

How convenient that God should honor Noah's curse of Cham and his descendants so that white people could have slave labor.

Somewhere in the book of Revelation it says that slave traders will go to the Lake of Fire and also that one of the sins of Babylon was human trafficking. The Tribes are very silent on this point.

It baffles me that Gene Spriggs "Yoneq" and Marsha Spriggs would release the Cham teaching which has so discredited the Twelve Tribes communities.

Another thing I've wondered about is that if the Twelve Tribes movement is of God, why hasn't Gene Spriggs own son joined? I heard he visited once and didn't think much of it.

Has anyone seen or talked to him?
Will he and his descendants be punished for the sins of his father?

November 23, 2011 7:13 PM  
Anonymous Jerry said...

Here's Gene Spriggs aka Yoneq brand of child training discipline punishment:

"Unless your son has blue wounds, by this standard, you know what kind of a standard is in you — it is the spirit that hates your son. If one is overly concerned about his son receiving blue marks you know that he hates his son and hates the word of God."

This hasn't changed in the Tribes.

Go to this link to see how it used to be, even worse. Some kids got beat for literally hours. This is no exaggeration. They were "scourged." And the Tribes denies it ever happened. But some older members have admitted it to me.

http://yattt.blogspot.com/2008/01/open-letter-for-pilgrum-current-tt.html

November 23, 2011 7:36 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Jake, in all fairness, there really is an emphasis now on encouraging children. In fact, encouraging them 99x more than 1x of discipline, and reaching their hearts in love. They now stress never disciplining a child in anger or frustration.

I wish Yoneq would get things headed in a more healthy direction overall before he and Marsha pass on. Am hoping a big divisive mess and power struggle doesn't occur, with exiting members plundering the community businesses and credit cards.

Anyone have any idea about how things are being prepared in advance of their passing?

November 29, 2011 12:57 PM  
Anonymous Sandy said...

my boyfriend, and his very large family come from 12 tribes. they're out of the cult. they were in it 20 years. my boyfriend was beaten so badly that his father and mother couldn't take it. the last straw, after every day beatings, was when he kissed a girl at 17, and the whole community came down on him, beating his back bloody, and locked him in a room for weeks. my boyfriend is an angel for helping his family escape after 20 years.

November 29, 2011 1:17 PM  
Anonymous Yah-weh..yeah rite... said...

unfortunately, my brother has been a member of twelve tribes, for twenty years. i have seen him give up everything, work like a slave, preach on the street, even lose a finger, all the while professing his happiness living in this fools’ paradise. twelve tribes is nothing more than a religious cult that draws its ideologies from a handful of established religions–as long as these ideologies are convenient to spriggs’ dogmatic needs in manipulating his slaves and furthering his empire. and though they think they are novel and annointed, they are, instead, simply another rehashing of the same old story. after all, a cult is a cult is a cult. fear dominates their members in an insipid way –i.e., they are the last to know they are afraid. sadly, they will die old and broke with no legacy but the furtherance of sprigg’s estate. twelve tribes is a true horror show. and, as usual, the innocent children are the ones who will suffer for years to come.

November 30, 2011 11:04 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Here's what the men in the Twelve Tribes told me about attending college:

"College is stupid." "College is for lazy people who are unwilling to work by the sweat of their brow according to the First Covenant."

December 06, 2011 9:29 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I love Mate Factor and Yellow Deli food. But I won't buy any of it anymore. You know why? Many of those nice men and women working in the cafe work double-shifts for nothing more than room and board and often no medical care to speak of. I'm not going to support a cult.

December 07, 2011 9:43 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I've seen children taken from gatherings to be hit with the balloon sticks for things as trivial as refusing to hold a guests or another members hand while dancing.

I feel sorry for the little children. There are no toys to play with and they also get hit for any kind of make-believe, talking to one's self, talking to an imaginary friends, and any kind of make-believe or fantasy play.

I was reluctant for a long time to call this place a cult. But that is what it really is. Because the people's lives are completely controlled, their beliefs, their actions, their conversation, their movement, everything, and they work long hours for no pay and often suffer prolonged medical neglect.

Add to this Gene Spriggs brainwashing that all black people who don't join the Tribes should still be servants and mammies to white people. It's really awful under the surface with this commune.

December 08, 2011 12:27 PM  
Anonymous Barak said...

Think about this. They call themselves the Twelve Tribes of Israel, and most of the members are not Jewish. And who decided where each Tribe would be geographically? Tribe of Benjamin "south of the Mason-Dixon line" United States? I don't think so.

This is what happens when you have one guy and his wife in charge of something who hear a voice and have no idea what they're doing, but want to be religiously better than everyone else in society.

If Jesus were here today, what might he say to the Twelve Tribes of Gene Spriggs?...
"I know of your works, your tireless recruiting efforts, your long work hours, your diligence to hit your children at the slightest foolishness, your rapid expansion and building of new communes, yet I have this against you, You judge and condemn many people outside your own group, yet within your communes there is a double-standard. Shepherds ruling over sheep. Listen to what I say, for I speak the truth I have received from my Father in Heaven, you shall not call any man 'apostle' not 'apostolic worker' nor 'shepherd' nor 'elder' for you are all children of God and brothers. None is to rule over the other. Your hypocritical tribal government is a foul stench in my nostrils and I shall blow you out of my nose until ye shall repent. Ye hypocrites, one man among you commits adultery and he is banished from the commune for seven years, the leaders wife does the same and she remains. Should you not have either chosen justice for each or mercy for each. Nay, ye have shown partiality based upon status and leadership. Unless ye repent and become as little chidlren, and allow your children to play with toys and use their imaginations, I will blow you out of my nose, and you will never rule the world. And isntead of living in the Holy City, ye shall clean it six days a week for double-shifts, just like you worked each other among you, even when ye were sick. Repent now I say, or else I will come to with many rods of correction, and I will begin the beatings upon Gene and Marsha Spriggs first, then Edward and Jeanie Wiseman next, then all the apostolic workers and shepherds to show you what it was like for the children in the communes through the years, while you lorded authority over all the sheep who only wanted to follow me. I desire mercy, not sacrifice. You talked much of loving one another, but you only created work-houses and neglected medical care for your needy. The still-born babies and dead adult members now testify against you before my throne. Repent, I say, and change your corrupt teachings regarding the curse on black and Jewish people. No one is to be the slave of another. Do unto others as you would have them do unto you. Be kind I say, and end all partiality. Lay not wealth at the apostle's feet, let him earn the bread he eats and let him be the servant of all, he and his wife. Let them do the dishes, the laundry, and clean the bathrooms."

December 13, 2011 1:30 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am thankful for this blog because i have been a tourist to Ithaca for years and would always make it a priority to eat there because of the beautiful atmosphere, celtic music and wonderful food. I love mate because of the anti oxidants and energy boost it gives.

Shortly after moving to Ithaca, i began hearing the rumors. How can something so beutiful be so corrupt beneath the surface? I have been dedicated to getting to the truth. I have been reading the papers and noticed that they ask a lot of questions. At first i thought that they were just another peaceful community that chooses to stay separated from modern society. ( I had once visited a Quaker community that was simple and beautiful that inspired me to simplify my life so why should i judge the twelve tribes for the same kind of lifestyle?)

First hand experience of cruelty and witness reports of child abuse however isnt judgement but a cry for compassion.

I now buy Mate at the health food store. NATIVA is very good and can be brewed in a coffee maker.

June 26, 2012 3:58 AM  
Anonymous Rakam said...

They told me to "stop reasoning and stop thinking." "We will tell you how to think. Where did you learn to think anyway? In the world?" "You need to repent and give up your rotten filthy life in the world."

To be able to remain in this group long-term with a good conscience and satisfaction, you really need to leave your brain and conscience at the door. And overlook the frequent harsh hitting of babies and children. It really is child-abuse.

Week by week, you will introduced to the Teachings. And you are "to receive" all that is presented to you without a hint of disagreement because everything you're taught is from the Anointing, the Apostle Yoneq (Gene Spriggs). Yoneq cannot be replaced as long as he is alive.

I really like many of the people and certain aspects of their life like the music and food and sharing at gatherings, but that is where like ends and fear and the brain-washing begins.

I really began to lose my mind after awhile, but that was okay with them, I was beginning "to take on the Mind of the Body" (the Tribes), and that is crucial to be saved in many ways.

By the way, you cannot be saved and go to the Holy City Heaven for God's children unless you join their group and give them all your money and property. They take everything.

They try to get to join as soon as possible, and then it's not long before you're asked how much money you have!

Believe it or not, part of me still wants to be there. To have that great eternal "purpose" and "true friends." I think about it everyday, and I been out of there a long time. Somehow something was done to my mind. I haven't been right since. It's been a challenge to hold down a job, but I have for about a year now. They say it's because I "was never meant to live in the world."

They say "You've been touched by Satan" for my returning to "the World"/mainstream society, but could it be the other way around.

Could there be Satan or a demon hiding behind the Twelve Tribes?

They can keep their fur-face ugly beards and pony-tails for the men and clown-pants for the women. Now they even have to wear special headbands to the gathering that God will someday put crowns upon.

By the way, where in the Bible does it say the Tribe of Judah will be in the northern US States and the Tribe of Benjamin south of the Mason-Dixon line?

A long time ago, Yoneq thought the Holy City would someday be centered in Chattanooga, Tennessee! And 1200 miles square around it. I guess that's because he was there?

Whatever happened to that stunning revelation from God? When he or wife Ha-emeq Spriggs make a mistake, sin or blunder of some kind, it never happened. It becomes a "lie or slander." Just like her adulterous affair with a young disciple. Denied. "It is good to conceal a matter" they say.
If it's their matter! But Christianity they will put down tirelessly, yet they are no better. In fact, worse in some wways!

July 18, 2012 8:43 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I hope brothers and sisters and Gene and Marsha will read this. The best thing the Tribes leadership could do right now is just be honest about past mistakes and injustices that have happened in the Tribes. Instead of denying they ever happened. The one place they've never reached yet, is where you are a group that's willing to admit when you've failed as a group in various ways. That's true humility which has been lacking for years.

July 18, 2012 5:50 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I don't like it that they still circumcise male babies in their homes.

July 25, 2012 10:58 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

One of the last straws for me was being told that they are glad that Abraham Lincoln and Martin Luther King Jr. were shot dead. That it was good and righteous they were killed for causing black people to rise up from their God ordained place as slaves.

I would like to ask this, though, if Jesus died for people's sins, to take away the curses of God, then why do the Tribes want all the previous curses to remain? I should say, why does Eugene Spriggs want them to remain?

They also want every woman to go through all the pain of child birth. They have a Gospel of pain and suffering. Jesus' death for the whole world wasn't enough, and his death is only for them.

What troubles me the most is this: I have hundreds of solid reasons to never return to the community, but I miss it there everyday. And I almost go back.

What happened to me?

July 26, 2012 9:22 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

hello,

i've been staying with the TT on and off for 6 months on and off and going to the yellow deli for years . i am in upstate ny , recently ... 2 weeks ago today , someone i was secretly seeing in the community went back and told his family that he planned to leave the community and marry me . he's been missing since . all i've found out is that his father took him away telling him they had a job in vt. his father is a shepard . i'm in shock and concerned .not sure what to do . his cell phone he used for work was turned off that day . ive been in contact with his father on and off . he said he'll never allow his son to speak to me . i'm pregnant and he offered me to just go away and he'd pay me , i am shaking my head in disbelief at this point . if anyone has any ideas please contact me .
thank you ,
eliza swinginglondon@hotmail.com

August 16, 2012 7:39 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I worked like a dog all day and all evening except the Sabbath for no money. Then one day I woke up and realized this was not God's Holy Nation.

August 29, 2012 1:51 PM  
Blogger Flower said...

This blog is hardly worthy of a response but I have to set a few things straight.I live with The Ithaca tribe,I moved in 2 months ago and have known them for almost 5 months.They are such an amazing group of people,their only desires are to love others and each other as their master Yashua loved,and to serve Yashua.They raise their children to do the same.These allegations of being a cult and of child abuse is ridiculous and completely unfounded!! There is no pressure for me to join,they are not asking for my net worth they are just loving me unconditionally and sharing their life with me.

December 30, 2012 12:44 AM  
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December 30, 2012 12:44 AM  
Anonymous Corem said...

My wife was called a witch, because she didn't want us to live in the Twelve Tribes. We did move in. My polyester clothes were burned in the woodstove without my permission. Her teddy bear was forbidden and also burned in the woodstove. You're not allowed any reading material except there own literature for the most part. I was told I could not be saved from Death and the Lake of Fire in any other church or any other place on earth. I was told that black people outside of the communities should still be slaves to white people. Yes, everything at the Tribes is "amazing" because they "are the only ones on earth doing Our Father's will" and everyone else will live just outside the Holy City/Heaven or be thrown alive into the Eternal Lake of Fire to be tortured by God forever. They claim to be nothing like Christianity, but most of their beliefs come from it and they use Christian Bibles. For every way their life is "amazing", I'll show you another way it is pretty terrible. And that's why most of their children leave, and most of the members eventually leave!

January 08, 2013 9:58 AM  
Anonymous Corem said...

It all comes down to being used and abused in the name of God and love. All your freedoms are taken away in the name of love and God. They ask you to surrender everything. Your family, your relatives, your money and possessions, your mind, your aspirations, everything. And if you don't, you cannot be saved. I was told to take off my head and put it on a shelf. I was told that I learned to think in the world, so my thoughts were no longer valid. I need to take on the mind of the Tribes so I could be faithful and be saved. I defended the Tribes, and worked like a slave as a member. Of course they have their good points and good intentioned members. But the end conclusion for most is a broken life of pain and suffering, supposedly for God and oneanother. In good conscience, all I can do is warn people about this place.

January 08, 2013 10:05 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Concerning the girl who is pregnant, they have again proven how rotten and hypocritical they are. If they followed their God's laws, they would want the girl and the young man to be married, versus offering to pay her to go away. They may represent their religion, but they sure don't represent a loving God. My wife has had one of the greatest revelations of all, "You don't have to join anything." As human beings we are already children of God and belong to the way. It's called humanity on earth, learning to live and love. I can only imagine what Jesus would call the Twelve Tribes if he were alive today. He might start out saying, "You whitewashed tomb, you who travel the earth to win a single sheep..."

January 08, 2013 10:31 AM  
Anonymous Cris said...

BEARDS WITH MUSTACHE are required for all males who can grow them.

BICYCLES are usually not allowed. In some communities they are allowed for the adults only for transportation, not recreation.

BIRTHDAYS are not celebrated. More recently some children have been instructed to bake a cake for their mother. The cake is not for the child. Birthday parties are not allowed. The child’s age is recognized, but “glory is not to be heaped upon a child.”

CHILDBIRTH usually occurs within the community, and giving birth in a hospital is often considered “lacking faith”. Midwives and other sisters assist in delivery and love the new mother.

CHILDBIRTH PAIN is not to be lessened in any way. It is considered good to bond mother and child, and as the consequence of Eve bringing God’s curse on humanity by eating the forbidden fruit in the Garden of Eden. It is believed that if pregnant women avoid pain, they will not really love their children.

CHILDREN’S TOYS are mostly not allowed, including all dolls and stuffed animals. More recently lego’s have been allowed for some of the children. Board games such as Scrabble are allowed.

CHRISTIANITY & ALL OTHER RELIGIONS are condemned as demonic and Satanic.

CHRISTIAN SONGS are still being sung, even though Christianity is condemned.

CHRISTMAS is not celebrated and Christmas gifts are not allowed.

CIRCUMCISION is mandatory for all male babies, and teens and men who haven’t been circumcised.

CLOTHING REQUIRED FOR FEMALES are dresses or baggy bloomer pants. Women wear headscarves to the daily gatherings and some events. Prior to approx. 1993, women wore the headscarves most of the time. Now, most of the time, they do not. The headscarves are a symbol of “women being covered” by men and “submission” to men and their husbands.

CRITICISM of any kind against the Tribes, and especially against founders Elbert Eugene “Gene” (Yoneq) Spriggs or his 4th wife, Marsha Ann Duvall (Ha’emeq) Spriggs is not allowed. If you “oppose the anointing, God may cause you to become ill, experience an accident, or die.” “You need to cling to the anointing.” All negative reporting is considered “malicious lies and slander.” “Those who spread lies and slander will go to the eternal lake of Fire.”

DEPENDENCY upon the group for everything is considered “normal” and healthy. “We make it so people can’t survive and stand on their own two feet in the world.”

HEALTH INSURANCE doesn’t exist, and is sometimes spoken against.

MEDICAL CARE is a last resort. Doctors, hospitals, and medications are usually avoided.

March 05, 2013 8:19 AM  
Anonymous Naba said...

If only the life was a good as it looks in the pictures. The Twelve Tribes is full of loving men, women and children who have given up everything to live for God. The problem is they were manipulated into denouncing their former faith and following a man who demands loyalty without question. In fact, Yoneq (Gene Spriggs) suggests they not think (reason) for themselves at all because he and elders will do it for them. Elbert Eugene Spriggs has built a multi-million dollar industry on the backs of these people who gladly work 80-90 hours per week for no pay.

March 05, 2013 5:15 PM  
Anonymous James Bilbao said...

That's your side of the story , I'd like to hear their's . You TT haters often exagerate , even fabricate events out of resentment .

You didnt like living with them anymore , for whatever reason , maybe you found their religious lifestyle to restrictive or had a problem with someone and left . People should visit the TT , meet them , get to know them , then make your decision as to whether their lifestyle is for you .

Don't base your decision on someone elses bitter grapes .

March 10, 2013 2:14 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Just because children are home schooled, does not mean they do not go to school, you do have that one wrong. Balloon sticks with cushion grip handles sound familiar to anyone? Hows about being forced to work 12 to 16 hours a day to come home to nothing but a plate of Pasta because Yoneq needs a new fishing boat and there is not enough money left to feed the help properly. But hey, those turkey cheddar melts kick ass .

March 11, 2013 6:27 PM  
Anonymous Freaking Friend said...

I lived with the 12 tribes for a long time and they are wonderful loving people and all the stuff people are posting bad about the is false the people posting these things are the same people who commit hate crime and bully everyone who doesnt live there way.

March 11, 2013 6:29 PM  
Anonymous neheshtun said...

these are my People and I live to serve with them when you accuse them you accuse me and I will help Judge if necessary

March 13, 2013 12:24 PM  
Anonymous Kiwi said...

These are peaceful, creative people with a sense of humour, a good work ethic, happy, healthy children and a commitment to living together cooperatively. Perhaps some communities have suffered from a few bad apples coming in, but I haven't met any of them.

March 13, 2013 11:53 PM  
Anonymous esagewa said...

I have lived voluntarily on a 12 Tribes farm for 2 1/2 months doing some farm work for them. Never ONCE do I personally believe they intentionally injure or harm their children. when I see a 4 yr old in that community, they are learning to chop food and do math. when I see a 4 yr old in every day life, I see them learning to shoot zombies and harm others. These children's lives are so enriched by love, while our families are separating. I would not personally join them however.

March 14, 2013 4:05 PM  
Blogger Aloysius Horn said...

I am really curious. Why the sudden rash of comments (both pro and anti-TT) that are suddenly flooding into this blog? How did all of you simultaneously come to start posting comments after all this time? Was this blog advertised somewhere? Do you keep track of these comments via an RSS reader? Please fill me in!

March 14, 2013 5:25 PM  
Anonymous David Allen said...

Exploiting your fellow man, child abuse, mass manipulation, cult programming and manipluation, racist hidden doctorines. If only you knew how bad a deal the kids caught up in this cult are getting. These people work like slaves while Eugene, if he's still alive gets ALL the money!
These people get little sleep. And believe me the food there served is a far cry from the scrumptious meals they serve up in there country kitchen restraunts.
It's very very sad. I pray that if you are a true believer you take it into your heart. To pray that these people get released from bondage.

March 16, 2013 6:54 PM  
Anonymous Jonas said...

Big lies David Allen! I can tell you from firsthand experience that Yoneq does not get all the money. He gets a very tiny fraction of it for necessary food, clothes, travel, and needed medical care.
Most of the money goes to paying everyone's bills, for clothing, food, and medical expenses.
You make the life there sound like some kind of hell. You paint a very misleading and false picture of things in a few words. Do a reality check and visit there sometime. I lived there over 7 months. They love all their children very much.

March 18, 2013 9:03 AM  
Anonymous Ann Phelps said...

If you ever really met Yoneq or Ha'emeq you would know they don't live much different than anyone else. I didn't see any difference. All I can say is that they loved me, and some of the haters here on this blog are not any different than the rest of the world. Some people want to see a beautiful life like the community people are living together, and others want to destroy it. Oh, and about black people, they love and welcome black people. It's one of the reasons they were first rejected in Tenn.! Every ethic group has their own problems. Go to a black neighborhood and find out. Live with poor white people and find out. The Tribe people love all the ethic groups. Don't be Tribe-phobic and Tribe-bashers unless you've met them and gotten to know them.

March 28, 2013 5:01 PM  
Anonymous KiwiGirl said...

I spent 3 months living at their farm, working in their cafe, helping out with chores and kids. They spent hours listening to me, talking to me, and helping me whenever I needed them. They taught me (through their ACTIONS, not their doctrine) what it means to be loved, and what's important in life. And when I decided to leave, they made me a pancake breakfast and drove me to my grandmother's house, where we parted on good terms.

I would call this a "Heart Reform" group.

April 05, 2013 10:52 AM  
Anonymous KiwiGirl said...

Also: while I chose to leave, these people changed me.

A preacher can talk about love, but what if you really needed some? Would they take you home, feed you, clothe you, help you to become a more loving person? Would they have a limit after which you were on your own again?

I called these people at 7:00 on their Sabbath morning, and without question they immediately drove three hours out of their way to pick me up and bring me to their home, where they gave me food, clothing, a bed....

April 05, 2013 10:53 AM  

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